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Old 06-23-2016, 06:57 PM
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Default LSA blown 5.3 Olds Cutlass - Determination

Hey guys,

New to this forum but definitely not new to g-bodies. Want to get my build thread up to speed so you'll see a bit of a crash course over the last few months here. I apologize for the cluge. Without further adieu, here's my girl...Determination.

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Hi Guys...been a long while since I've been on this site. Between work, school (went back to school a year ago to pursue my PhD) and family (second child on the way) there isn't too much time for cars these days. Over the last few years this car has gone back and forth from all out drag car to street car to the for sale block! Finally, I figured out what I really want to do...I've never really done any road course events but have a great track close to me. Now while I don't have the pockets that some of these pro-touring folks have, I do have patience and time to find exactly what I am looking for. I want to ultimately find my way to the Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational with this pig. Even if I don't make it there at least I will have had the chance to get this car back on the road and even better the track! And as a metaphor for my life right now, just like my PhD that could conceivably take me 10 years to get, this car has been down for almost ten years since drag duty and seeing daylight! Since most guys name their builds, I call mine "Determination"...

This intro post is just here to wet the whistle while I get my build pics together, so with that in mind....



Trying to make Millville, NJ race in May but that is really close to when my son is supposed to be born. Stay tuned and watch the hilarity unfold!
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:58 PM
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All right! FINALLY have an update for you guys! I bought a bunch of new parts for her last night, but wanted to give a little better overview of what I already have.

Here's some shots of the Hooker Headers - 1 7/8" stainless primaries:














I also purchased the full Holley engine and trans mounting system with polyurethane mounts (converter is a RevMax 2800-3000 stall):





























Also have the right Holley Oil Pan and race baffle to go with it (will be selling the twin turbo pan I have on the motor currently):














Also picked up an Aeromotive 15 gal A1500 fuel cell with fuel level sensor and internal baffling:









Like I mentioned earlier a picked up a ton of extra things like a boost-referenced Aeromotive regulator, Holley 95mm Cable throttle body, throttle body adapter from Holley, gaskets, as well as PSI Conversion harness and a ton more!!! I will highlight what I did to the motor in another post because there is so much to show and talk about, but here are some pics from today...the first time this car has been out of the garage in EIGHT years!!!!!



















A ridiculous amount more to come!!! Thanks!

Dave
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:59 PM
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Christmas.......in March!!! Got a nice delivery today of parts and drug them inside before the boss saw them. Battles must be chosen wisely! :twak:



Starting with the box from PSI Conversion, I received the following:

Harness
PCM mount for the 411 style PCM
"Tune up" kit that has MSD wires, plugs, O2 sensors, etc...
Transmission kick down switch














Chain tensioner:



Also got a new adapter plate for the monster 95mm throttle body and the throttle body as well...95mm!







Aeromotive boost referenced regulator



Yates EFI Allstar radiator



Should start getting things on the car and motor within the next few weeks!!!
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:00 PM
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Glad to see a g body also. Looks like a fun project. What tt pan do you have on it? Was it for a gen III/IV? I need to get a build post going on my g body.
Hi there, thanks for your interest! I originally had moroso mounts and 1" setbacks to accommodate a modified CTSV pan with dual drains. Here's a shot of it below:



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This will be for sale as soon as I get the motor back out to do a few updates.

Thanks,
Dave
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:03 PM
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More and more parts!!!! :rock:

Fan shroud and dual Spals:


LS1 MLS gaskets...reasoning for these is because I currently have LS9s on it but I did not like the huge difference in bore sizes between the 5.3 and LS9 so this is a nice compromise!



Vacuum block off plugs for supercharger:



Aeromotive fuel filter:



Gaskets for between adapter plate and head...thought I got the blower gaskets but will be grabbing them tonight.



Should get some real work done this weekend...work sucked today and I have an exam in class Monday so taking the day off from work to do last minute studying. Just need a break this weekend if even for a little bit.

Lots more to come!!!
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:05 PM
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And yet another round of parts!!! I can't walk in my garage right now...these basically finish off the big and expensive parts so I should be able to get this pig running within the next few months provided that the timing works out well between work and the birth of baby 2!!!

So for the brakes I am going to stick with the stock ones for this season because I cannot afford the Baer's for a while. As for the suspension, I am just going with the UMI Stage 1 to clean up the suspension and stiffen a bit to make it drivable. It will be a show queen for this season...just don't have the funds to finish everything this go around but I WANT to drive this damn thing!!!



For the intercooler, I am going with an Afco ZL1 unit that is beefed up for performance duty. If I need to I will slap fans on it but I think this will be sufficient for now. I am recirculating water with a GT500 intercooler pump.





Have a Derale Trans cooler that I will be mounting under the trunk on an angle to get plenty of coolant to '80e:



Finally, the 3" Hooker xpipe G body exhaust...REALLY looking forward to hearing this. I hope it is not insanely loud. I will most likely get a pair of Borla mufflers if I do not like the sound, but from what I've heard I am pretty happy.



Most of this stuff should be showing up in the next week with the suspension in about 2-3 weeks. I will be pulling the motor to start converting over to the full Holley/Hooker mounts and change over to the 302-2 pain with road race baffle. I am also an idiot and realized that I put the heads on without one of the head dowels in place so I have a few extras as well as a new set of MLS LS1 gaskets. I know a TON of people use the LS9s and they are ridiculously expensive, but since I have to pull the heads and that will most likely screw up the head gaskets, the smaller, more appropriate bore, of the LS1 MLS gaskets gives me more piece of mind. I'll be taking a ton of pics of the process so stay tuned. Also, if anyone has a complete G body heater only set-up I would be interested in purchasing or trading for a very complete (minus compressor) AC system.

Thanks!
Dave
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:07 PM
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Still making progress...especially with the engine. As my last post pointed out I had a LOT of parts in stock...haha. Finally started installing them once I pulled the motor.

Before I get too far in I am proud to announce my second son was born on the 12th of May...great reason not to get work done!

So as I mentioned I had a lot in stock to get down to business.



All of that will make its way here:



I got started with a tear down if the front end and oil pan. I installed the trick flow chain dampener...very straightforward.





Spent a bit of time on the oil pan situation. I removed the. CTSV pan with the double turbo drain (will be for sale soon) and installed the 302-2 pan with the road race baffle. You need to get the proper windage tray per Holleys direction which is the standard 98-02 fbody shorter tray but I am pretty sure you could just trim any tray back one counter weight. See pics below - first few show too long windage tray...





Proper windage tray is this number:



Here's the road race baffle:



Finally I replaced the head gaskets with ls1 MLS gaskets and did a nice reprint to freshen things up.





Ready to reinstall the correct valve covers (wrinkle black) and work on the blower tonight (replace the isolator). More pics to come!!!


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Old 06-23-2016, 11:40 PM
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Ok, made more progress last night and tonight!

Tore the blower apart and replaced the isolator with a solid version from Speed Inc. once the damn snout came off (a ball joint tool works well for separating it) removing the old sealant with a razor blade, cleaning then reinstalling was pretty straightforward.





Old isolator



Assembled blower



Not sure I showed th ICT coil brackets but got these off the 'bay. Very happy with them. Last show is with truck heat sink coils.







Finally, last shots are of the blower being mounted and the Holley 95mm throttle body being installed with cable bracket. Lid is a ZL1 Camaro lid and a new gasket was installed.









Completed blower install with LS9 rails...I will hopefully be installing the Fuel Injector Clinic injectors tomorrow as well.



That's it for tonight...pretty happy with the progress I am making...I will be pulling the trains and having it freshened up...even tho it was supposed to be a low mileage rebuild, the color of the fluid and smell when I installed the HD2 shift kit has never left my mind...more to come!!!
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:42 PM
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Pretty sure that gets everyone up to speed more or less. Hoping to grab the transmission this weekend. It's being freshened and beefed up by DiabloFormula Racing out in Leola, PA. Great work at affordable prices!
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Old 06-24-2016, 05:48 AM
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Well, welcome aboard and I hope this build works out for you and to your plans. They are easy to get side tracked from no doubt. Congratulations on the new baby! The built engine looks amazing!
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:14 AM
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Welcome to the site! That motor does look good!
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Wow what a project! Welcome to the site.
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Wow, Great build thread you've got going here! Like it.

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Old 06-25-2016, 07:54 PM
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Thanks guys! It's slow but steady. A little bummed I won't be grabbing the Trans...he just wasn't able to finish this weekend because he has too much work. Guess that's better than the alternative for him.

In any event, I am waiting on CPP to release their g body C5 spindle. That will make it nice and easy to slap 14" Vette brakes on her up front and I'll probably work a Kore 3 in the rear...or possibly fbody.

Going to be doing some serious work tomorrow so stay tuned!
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Old 07-14-2016, 04:01 AM
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Been quite a while since my last update. I have a ton to go over, but have been a bit under the weather lately. Decided to update a video. Hopefully this will answer your questions:

Cutlass 5.3L LSA blown engine status - YouTube

Will be adding more info/still shots of all the great stuff that is on going into the car.


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