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Old 03-07-2012, 08:14 AM
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I get questions frequently about my shop and what it cost to build and how long it took etc.
people seem to think its both cheap and fast to get a garage built and it can be in some areas, but you need to do the research before jumping into this with both feet blind and you need to realize a shop on the property WILL cause your property taxes to increase
around here just the bare as you described 20x22 ft garage costs about $25K-$28K
site prep THATS REQUIRED BY BUILDING CODES and the PERMITS, land surveys soil tests inspections etc add at least $6k
so I don,t think the quotes youll get if you call 5-6 contractors for bids are all that far off, keep in mind theres usually a great deal of things NOT covered in quotes like site prep, permits, blueprints, inspections, electrical work, ETC.
ask LOTS of questions because you can,t pass inspections without knowing the local building rules, and yes everythings expensive and you can figure on a 50%-70% cost over run on total cost if you FAIL to ask detailed questions of fail to specify EVERY DETAIL ABOUT THE BUILD, I got quotes ranging from about $90K-$240K on my 36FT deep 75 ft long x 16 ft tall shop , the higher quotes were with everything detailed, including extra strength roof trusses, 50 year roof, 4000psi 8' slab 200 amp electrical fans, lights outlets, and everything electrical in conduit using 10 ga minimum wire etc. and a shop bath with toilet and shower and separate septic and drain field , prices skyrocket once you specify GOOD QUALITY WORK with MANDATORY use of the best materials

DON,T JUST GLANCE OVER, BUT READ THRU THE LINK AND SUB LINKED INFO, even if some info doesn,t apply to you it helps you have a better understanding of whats involved


http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...php?f=27&t=116


http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/....php?f=27&t=98

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...hp?f=27&t=5035

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http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...hp?f=28&t=6403

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Old 03-07-2012, 10:53 AM
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Grumpy,
As usual, you are right on with your points of interest. There's one thing I did that I believe made it ALOT easier for me and my shop build. The county I live in isn't that populated so I was able to talk to the different inspectors and throw ideas at them about how I would like to build my shop. They helped alot in the planning, building, and through to the final inspection! I found that if you do the research, and do your homework (the only thing I didn't do while building my shop was the concrete work), they'll help you in any way they can!

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I get questions frequently about my shop and what it cost to build and how long it took etc.
people seem to think its both cheap and fast to get a garage built and it can be in some areas, but you need to do the research before jumping into this with both feet blind and you need to realize a shop on the property WILL cause your property taxes to increase
around here just the bare as you described 20x22 ft garage costs about $25K-$28K
site prep THATS REQUIRED BY BUILDING CODES and the PERMITS, land surveys soil tests inspections etc add at least $6k
so I don,t think the quotes youll get if you call 5-6 contractors for bids are all that far off, keep in mind theres usually a great deal of things NOT covered in quotes like site prep, permits, blueprints, inspections, electrical work, ETC.
ask LOTS of questions because you can,t pass inspections without knowing the local building rules, and yes everythings expensive and you can figure on a 50%-70% cost over run on total cost if you FAIL to ask detailed questions of fail to specify EVERY DETAIL ABOUT THE BUILD, I got quotes ranging from about $90K-$240K on my 36FT deep 75 ft long x 16 ft tall shop , the higher quotes were with everything detailed, including extra strength roof trusses, 50 year roof, 4000psi 8' slab 200 amp electrical fans, lights outlets, and everything electrical in conduit using 10 ga minimum wire etc. and a shop bath with toilet and shower and separate septic and drain field , prices skyrocket once you specify GOOD QUALITY WORK with MANDATORY use of the best materials

DON,T JUST GLANCE OVER, BUT READ THRU THE LINK AND SUB LINKED INFO, even if some info doesn,t apply to you it helps you have a better understanding of whats involved


http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...php?f=27&t=116


http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/....php?f=27&t=98

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...hp?f=27&t=5035

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...c.php?f=28&t=5

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...hp?f=28&t=6403

http://garages.homeblue.com/pros/hom...emodeling.aspx
Grump, we are in the Acreage. Build it yourself, plant some palm so you can't see it from the road, purchase large pitbulls to keep nosey neighbors from looking at your stuff. Been on the fence on doing a steel 24x60 in the back yard. I have a concrete guy. I can build it myself. I figure out by us $60k is right on the money.
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the problem is that the county tax and building dept.permit guys use satellite photo over lays to detect new UN-licenced construction, they use far clearer, and more detailed color contrast over lays and would notice if you moved the mail box 3 feet

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the problem is that the county tax and building dept.permit guys use satellite photo over lays to detect new UN-licenced construction, they use far clearer, and more detailed color contrast over lays and would notice if you moved the mail box 3 feet

Funny thing is is my shop is around 30 feet North of that picture. My daughter pulled a pic off of Google Maps of our house and you can see my dog sleeping next to my camper.

Yeah. Easy street is over.
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http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...c.php?f=28&t=5

when you go to wire up the shop these threads should help
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