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Old 01-22-2011, 05:28 PM
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Default Warning Lights vs Full Gauges Malibu/Camino/Monte 82-85

I wanted to show the differences between the warning light and full gauge clusters for the 82-85 at least, and very likely right from 1978. It is my belief that swaping from warning lights to full gauges is not just a matter of finding a full gauge cluster and installing it. I hope this provides some clarity on the subject.

An 83 warning light cluster pictured below...



Notice that there is only the speedo and a fuel gauge..the rest are the warning lights.




On the back side you'll see the printed circuit and the gauge contact(one circled in red) in this case for the fuel gauge. Circled in yellow is the light for the "warning" light in this case the temp light.



The part # for this printed circuit is 25016703 as shown below




Below is a pic of a full gauge cluster with tach..




Notice on the back side the printed circuit has more gauge contacts for the additional gauges.




The two housings or pods are not the same due to the amount of gauge contact points


The part # for the full gauge printed circuit is 25016702



The printed circuit will also accomodate the factory tachometer as shown by the 4 circled contacts below



Here is a picture of the 78-85 tach bracket with the contact points.



It is my understanding that in order to swap from warning lights to a full gauge cluster you will be able to repin the existing warning light harness. Information for this can be found elseware. Unfortunately I don't have a cluster connection from a warning light harness here but below are pics from a full gauge cluster harness.

1 thru 9




10 thru 18...with # 17 being the wire for the tach connection.




I hope this helps those considering a swap from warning lights to full gauges.
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:33 PM
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Believe it or not, the replacement circuit I got for my gauge cluster came off a cluster that looks identical to the warning light cluster. I believe there is an early cluster that has the lights in the cluster itself (where the gauges usually go), and a later one that uses the warning lights on the side. Now that I'm thinking of it, I believe the cluster with a circuit that will interchange with a full gauge cluster won't list volts, temp, and oil in the center area, they will basically just be blank and have the hash marks around the outer edge.
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That was a wealth of knowledge.......:)
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Great information, Kevin.
Thanks for sharing it with us.

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Kevin: I congratulate you on one of the best explanations I've seen to date on swapping out lights for gauges. It is assisting me greatly in my conversion.
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Thanks Bobee....glad it's been of some help. One thing to note is that the oil sending unit and water temp sending unit are specific to gauges you won't be able to keep the warning light senders.
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